http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/528132?src=mp
finasteride (2.5 mg instead of 1 mg) +
oral contraceptive containing drospirenone and ethinyl estradiol
look up drospirenone to see what it is.. may be a different form of progestin I havent tried?
Well Looked it up.. looks like its the birth control pill Yasmin, its apparently the only one that contains drospirenone which has anti-androgen effects.
Lots of good opinions on Yasmin at Larrian's forum over the years. I thought it was supposed to have more estrogen.. but apparently its the different form of progestin?
Looks like I need to look up some other birth control pills and see how much synthetic estrpgens are in them...
Also Angelic? (Sp) is a form of HRT also with drospirenone but has a whopping 1mg of estradiol.. about 5 to 10 times a "safe" oral dose on my current research interpretations (safe seems to be under 200mcg estradiol, preferably about 100mcg orally, more if taken thru skin(called transdermal) or estriol), but its on of those "unknowns" at present.
Anyway as I need a progesterone or progestin I'll ask if its possible to try this drospirenone out.
Now to look up finasteride ...
OK ..found one
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16476520&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum
intersting for guys too...
and then this one
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16507052&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum
honestly, I think you guys outta just settle for the hair loss? after reading that one
The sayins is for blokes that bald implies too much testosteron, anyway looks like there may be somethin in it? That last ref showed a decreased libido and ED and EjD(look at article for meanings
with Alpha1-adrenoceptor blockers so maybe the opposite also holds?.. stronger libido etc. in some of those with male pattern baldness?
I've just been to the docs..this new lady doc seems good.. and got a script for Yasmin.. so I'll give it a whirl. She also suggested Rogaine , which apparewntly in Australia in OTC.
Anyone tried this for females.. please leave a comment if you have had any success or otherwise with Yasmin or Rogaine or Finasteride?
I'm also wondering if saw palmetto is similar to finasteride?.. must google..
Yes, maybe it is
saw palmetto is supposedly also a alpha1 reductase inhibitor? and as effective as finasteride?
http://www.hairsite.com/secure/razack_natrecia.htm here's probably a supp worth trying for the guys?..
then again
this says saw palmetto may not stop hair loss, so far all the studies are only on prostrate, none aable to show a reduction in hair loss?
Here Ray Shelian says it doesn't
This enzyme converts testosterone to DHT. Interestingly, there are two major forms of this enzyme, called types I and II. In humans, Type I 5 alpha-reductase is predominant in the sebaceous glands of most regions of skin, including scalp. The Type II 5 alpha-reductase isozyme is primarily found in prostate, seminal vesicles, epididymides and less so in hair follicles. At this time we don't have much research as to whether saw palmetto blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT in hair tissue to a degree adequate enough to prevent or restore hair loss. My personal opinion, based on the early research, is that I suspect even if saw palmetto has a mild effect, it is not nearly as potent as the drug finasteride - an alpha reductase blocker - used for prostate enlargement (as Proscar) and hair regrowth (as Propecia). I do not know if there is an additive effect to finasteride if saw palmetto is taken along with it. There was a small study a few years ago that showed a potential benefit for hair growth in male pattern baldness when saw palmetto was combined with beta sitosterol. More research is certainly needed before we can come to any conclusions.
yeah I knew there was something about the 2 different types...sigh
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11/06/08 @ 16:28